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number close

noun, also verb (to number-close)

Stated meaning
Ending a first conversation with a phone number, or with a kiss, as the measurable result of an approach.
Operating meaning
A conversation scored at its last line by the one result that can be written down, which is the start of nothing yet.
Origin
Pickup vocabulary credited to the instructor Mystery, in use on alt.seduction.fast by July 2003. Neil Strauss's The Game glossed number-close and kiss-close in 2005.
Synonyms
kiss close

The glossary of The Game (opens in a new window) defines number-close as “to obtain a correct phone number from a woman,” and kiss-close as “to kiss or make out, with passion.” Both are marked “Origin: Mystery.” The terms were in circulation before the book. In July 2003 a poster on alt.seduction.fast (opens in a new window) asked: “Is there some sort of record for number closes?”

The word is borrowed from sales, where a close is the moment money changes hands. Here it is the moment a phone number does, and the manuals treat it as the first rung. The Natural (opens in a new window) ranks it first: “the first type of close: the number close.” The newsgroup kept the books. In 2004 one poster reported that he could “kiss close 30-40% of the time and number close 80% of the time,” and in the same list of results: “I get a LOT of flakes (most # closes lead to nothing).”

Under load, the close records the end of one conversation as the conclusion of a deal that has not begun. The number is a promise to take a call. It costs the giver one line and can be withdrawn by not answering, and a column that counts it as a result will show 80 percent closed and very little made.